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Texas Gus's avatar

Let me throw some facts at you and you decipher them:

Peterson was 28th in fWAR last year and he was by far the worst pitcher in MLB for six weeks. Cease was 23rd. Mets target Joe Ryan another “ace” was 29th, and Merrill Kelly was 30th.

Cease was the 8th best when combining ‘24 and ‘25.

Valdez was 11th last year and 12th when combining ‘24 and ‘25. During these two years, Suarez was 13th and Sonny Gray was 14th. Cole Regans was 17th for KC, and he missed last year with an injury after being in AA for Texas in 2023.

My point is perception doesn’t seem to match reality. We think Cease sucks, but he was the best of the lot over two years. We think the Mets should trade for Ryan, but Peterson was better. We think the Mets cannot rely on the youngsters but we see others did it successfully because they were ready.

Senga and Manaea can both put up these numbers and have in the past, but last year they were injured. Senga got hurt after starting out the best pitcher in MLB, but rushed back and then got all messed up. Manaea got hurt in spring training and couldn’t find his rhythm after looking quite plump when he came back.

It would be nice to add a quality arm, but if the breaks go against you, what can you do? The Mets obviously had just as good as what the other teams had.

Steven Shrager's avatar

It is always fun to think the Mets can just go out and trade for another team’s ace. They can, but the teams still in the expanded playoff hunt will not trade their ace - Skubel or Skenes, because it make no sense for them. Alcantara makes sense now like he did at the trade deadline. He will cost prospects and perhaps one of the Mets misfit infielders.

But make no mistake, the Mets will not win without a true ace, and they currently lack that on their current roster. Easy to say some of their current pitchers will rebound and become forces that they were not in 2025. Easy to think that it’s NYC that some of these relief pitchers can’t perform in, but that’s rarely the answer.

So, I opine that they are one ace away from moving forward, but also believe that if they don’t resign Alonso and Diaz, and figure out what to do with Vientos, Mauricio and Acuna, thereby making the second half of the lineup stronger, it really won’t matter.

Let the off-season begin!

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