completely agree. how many top prospects pan out, or even reach their prospect hype level? We do not have a "Jackson" in our (Holliday, Chourio, Merrill etc) who is a no doubt about it, put him in CF at age 20 and watch him become an all star. Crochett has ace level potential and is likely better than any of our top pitching prospects at least those who will be ready to join the major league rotation in the next 2 or 3 seasons. I'd be willing to trade probably any 2 of our top 10 prospects and then one from 10-15 and one from 25-30, particularly if they are mostly position players/hitters. We'll still have plenty of good players in the pipeline. Trade for young controllable ace-level pitchers, sign free agent hitters.
I'm not sure that people expected Jackson Merrill to be as good as he was, as quickly as he was. I could see Williams having a similar-type of season, if everything breaks right.
its baffling to me that someone can be that "surprisingly" good - and at a premium defensive position they never played before. why can't the mets get that lucky?
I don’t know much about Crochett to be completely transparent, but I have read the hype and I agree that he’d be a solid addition. I am personally fine with trading prospects but would like to hold onto Williams at least to see how he does with 100-300 ABs in Syracuse. Size notwithstanding, he seems like he has the makeup of a strong, multi-faceted player. On the other hand, why not see if Acuna can be the centerpiece of a trade package? He’s been disappointing since he’s arrived but maybe his spectacular cup-o-coffee warrants a look by another team. He has some name recognition value that Chicago might appreciate. I’d trade him with Baty in a heartbeat to get a SP3 or 4.
Would make pretty well any prospect + Brett Baty part of the deal but I would not want to make Clifford or Tong the third piece. So if you told me Baty, Williams and Acuna, I'd be all for it. Even Baty, Williams and Gilbert (though I'd be very unhappy). I don't want Baty, Williams and Clifford or Tong.
I saw Crochett pitch those 4 innings against the Mets back in August and was impressed. But he doesn't have a lot of starting experience under his belt IMO and I wouldn't empty the tank for him yet. I feel like we are a year or two away from using the prospects we developing in the minors as trade chips for controllable players. I like the 33 yr old starters like Snell and Manaea that hopefully you can get on 3 or 4 year deals and leverage Cohen's financial clout to build the rotation and let the farm system develop further.
The problem is if you wait another year before trading for him - and he puts up another strong season - then the price goes up considerably. And that's assuming he's still available. If the Mets pass on Crochet, it's very easy to see another team swooping in and getting a trade done.
I agree full heartily that part of the purpose of the farm system is to develop guys that you can trade to enhance the major league club. I'm not sure that Crochet an ace but he is a top line rotation piece. He is also 26 years old, going in to his prime and very inexpensive regarding the salary. The Mets have three future centerfielders in Williams, Gilbert and Acuno. At second base they have Mauricio, Williams,Baty and Acuna. The Mets can spare of the prospects.
The White Sox want offense. The Mets would offer potential offense. That isn’t what is the White Sox are asking for.The White should offer Crochet for Vientos and see what the Mets would do.
The purpose of a strong farm system is to be able to do multiple things simultaneously, like develop people to make the bog team and to package parts for trades. This is not an either-or exercise in my opinion. What I would be hesitant about is dumping players from positions we know we will need. I think it’s possible to move 2 of the infielders (Baty, Williams, Acuna, Mauricio [yes yes, I know]), but less excited about including outfielders.
I trust Stearns but would also like to see the Mets jump out and trade for some MLB ready talent. The reason to load up the farm system is to make trades, since very few home grown talents makes it to the big team. This should be the year of Mauricio and Acuna who are ahead of the other prospects. This spring training will be a chance for those two to shine. Mauricio should be recovered and penciled in at 2B and Acuna should be under strong coaching to hit better since we already saw he could sub in at SS if needed. Now if the Mets resign Iglesias then Acuna likely starts back at AAA, which is a more than reasonable destination for this youngster to start the year off at. Still waiting for the Mets to have a prospect that blows through the minors and hits the big club running, like a Strawberry or Gooden. Can anyone remember the last time one of our farm hands jumped in and made a splash?
It’s often a crap shoot with players you acquire to see if they will continue to show what they have done in the past once they put on the Met uniform. I’d like to see some trades now before all the good players disappear. There will always be a boat load of more to spend on free agents. Let’s get this party started.
He is but not sure he’s ready to come up. If not for Lindor’s back injury we would never got the chance to see Acuna. I think that taste of the bigs will help him arrive faster.
completely agree. how many top prospects pan out, or even reach their prospect hype level? We do not have a "Jackson" in our (Holliday, Chourio, Merrill etc) who is a no doubt about it, put him in CF at age 20 and watch him become an all star. Crochett has ace level potential and is likely better than any of our top pitching prospects at least those who will be ready to join the major league rotation in the next 2 or 3 seasons. I'd be willing to trade probably any 2 of our top 10 prospects and then one from 10-15 and one from 25-30, particularly if they are mostly position players/hitters. We'll still have plenty of good players in the pipeline. Trade for young controllable ace-level pitchers, sign free agent hitters.
I'm not sure that people expected Jackson Merrill to be as good as he was, as quickly as he was. I could see Williams having a similar-type of season, if everything breaks right.
its baffling to me that someone can be that "surprisingly" good - and at a premium defensive position they never played before. why can't the mets get that lucky?
I don’t know much about Crochett to be completely transparent, but I have read the hype and I agree that he’d be a solid addition. I am personally fine with trading prospects but would like to hold onto Williams at least to see how he does with 100-300 ABs in Syracuse. Size notwithstanding, he seems like he has the makeup of a strong, multi-faceted player. On the other hand, why not see if Acuna can be the centerpiece of a trade package? He’s been disappointing since he’s arrived but maybe his spectacular cup-o-coffee warrants a look by another team. He has some name recognition value that Chicago might appreciate. I’d trade him with Baty in a heartbeat to get a SP3 or 4.
If Acuna can be the centerpiece, we should do that yesterday.
Would make pretty well any prospect + Brett Baty part of the deal but I would not want to make Clifford or Tong the third piece. So if you told me Baty, Williams and Acuna, I'd be all for it. Even Baty, Williams and Gilbert (though I'd be very unhappy). I don't want Baty, Williams and Clifford or Tong.
I saw Crochett pitch those 4 innings against the Mets back in August and was impressed. But he doesn't have a lot of starting experience under his belt IMO and I wouldn't empty the tank for him yet. I feel like we are a year or two away from using the prospects we developing in the minors as trade chips for controllable players. I like the 33 yr old starters like Snell and Manaea that hopefully you can get on 3 or 4 year deals and leverage Cohen's financial clout to build the rotation and let the farm system develop further.
The problem is if you wait another year before trading for him - and he puts up another strong season - then the price goes up considerably. And that's assuming he's still available. If the Mets pass on Crochet, it's very easy to see another team swooping in and getting a trade done.
I agree full heartily that part of the purpose of the farm system is to develop guys that you can trade to enhance the major league club. I'm not sure that Crochet an ace but he is a top line rotation piece. He is also 26 years old, going in to his prime and very inexpensive regarding the salary. The Mets have three future centerfielders in Williams, Gilbert and Acuno. At second base they have Mauricio, Williams,Baty and Acuna. The Mets can spare of the prospects.
The White Sox want offense. The Mets would offer potential offense. That isn’t what is the White Sox are asking for.The White should offer Crochet for Vientos and see what the Mets would do.
The White Sox would want more than that. And it's hard to imagine the Mets parting with Vientos at this point.
The purpose of a strong farm system is to be able to do multiple things simultaneously, like develop people to make the bog team and to package parts for trades. This is not an either-or exercise in my opinion. What I would be hesitant about is dumping players from positions we know we will need. I think it’s possible to move 2 of the infielders (Baty, Williams, Acuna, Mauricio [yes yes, I know]), but less excited about including outfielders.
I wouldn't want to lose Benge. But I wouldn't let Clifford or Gilbert hold up a potential deal for Crochet.
I trust Stearns but would also like to see the Mets jump out and trade for some MLB ready talent. The reason to load up the farm system is to make trades, since very few home grown talents makes it to the big team. This should be the year of Mauricio and Acuna who are ahead of the other prospects. This spring training will be a chance for those two to shine. Mauricio should be recovered and penciled in at 2B and Acuna should be under strong coaching to hit better since we already saw he could sub in at SS if needed. Now if the Mets resign Iglesias then Acuna likely starts back at AAA, which is a more than reasonable destination for this youngster to start the year off at. Still waiting for the Mets to have a prospect that blows through the minors and hits the big club running, like a Strawberry or Gooden. Can anyone remember the last time one of our farm hands jumped in and made a splash?
It’s often a crap shoot with players you acquire to see if they will continue to show what they have done in the past once they put on the Met uniform. I’d like to see some trades now before all the good players disappear. There will always be a boat load of more to spend on free agents. Let’s get this party started.
I don't see how Acuna is ahead of Gilbert. At least Gilbert had success at Double-A in the Mets' organization.
Michael Conforto was drafted in 2014 and was hitting home runs in the World Series in 2015.
He is but not sure he’s ready to come up. If not for Lindor’s back injury we would never got the chance to see Acuna. I think that taste of the bigs will help him arrive faster.